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kamak
4 years agoAmbassador
Bridging customer owned routers to Telus router/equipment
With reference to this old thread from the Telus com forum: https://forum.telus.com/t5/Home/Bridge-Mode-Using-Your-Own-Router/ta-p/52181#:~:text=What%20Is%20Bridge%20Mode%3F,party%20router%20in%...
- 4 years ago
But does the NH20A have 2.5G LAN I/O? I don't think it does. In a modem AP config you connect the modem LAN to the AP's WAN? But I was always under the impression that you connected a gateway device to a AP via LAN to LAN. due to the fact that a gateway like the T3200M is a modem and a router, so router to router via LAN-LAN. That's the way I have my AX11000 connected to the T3200 at this moment, in AP mode and all seems well. I always had my WRT32X connected in AP mode to the T3200M, that way also.
Nighthawk
Community Power User
4 years agoWhat is your ultimate end goal with all of this? Better wifi reception? Trying to run a server of some kind? It would help to know so that a more applicable answer could be provided.
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The only way for the existing T3200 WLAN and LAN ports to be shared with a customer device, "all on one network" as you mentioned, is if that device is simply a wireless access point and NOT a router. The recently released Telus Wifi6 boost unit does just that. You'll still end up with a second SSID but it will directly let your devices (PC, phone, tablet, etc) to connect to the T3200 LAN and DHCP. No IP conflicts as the Boost will just grab an IP from the T3200 automatically, as will any device connected to it.
I've honestly never bridged my T3200M when I had my own router connected previously. I didn't disable the wifi on the T3200 either. All I had to do was make sure my router's IP range/subnet was different than the 192.168.1.x range the T3200 defaults to. If they share the same IP pool there will be endless conflicts. They were completely separate networks but since the T3200M wasn't bridged I could still access devices on that network by directly using the IP of the device. EDIT: If you clones the MAC address of the T3200, that would also just cause you more headaches. The two devices can NOT share the same gateway address, IP address, MAC address, or anything else.
When bridged the T3200 and the customer device are supposed to have different a gateway address. I've never bridged mine so I can't say for certain what the result will be.
The Nokia ONT only has a SINGLE WAN port that is active. As a result, If you really want two completely separate networks, install a gigabit switch between the ONT and the T3200. Then connect your own router to another port on that gigabit switch and it should pull a completely separate WAN IP address than the T3200. Depending on how your house is wired and where the devices are that you want to connect to each network, this may not be a feasible option.
Also if the two devices are on separate networks, there is no such thing as bridging them together. You may be misunderstanding what bridging port 1 does on the T3200. Most third party routers aren't even capable of "bridging" or even acting merely as a wireless access point.
kamak
4 years agoAmbassador
OR, Back to Option #1 of sorts:
One complete LAN/Wi-Fi network sharing the same ISP WAN on 1.5G service and future proofed for 2.5G service. Using two 2.5Gps WLAN fed routers. Now that I presently own one AX11000 router, which only has one 2.5Gps WLAN port and 8x 1Gps LAN ports and is Wi-Fi 6. Get the new Telus Arcadyan NH20A hub. Are any of the I/O on the NH20A 2.5G?
- Nighthawk4 years ago
Community Power User
Last I heard Telus doesn't use the NH20A on connections of 1Gbps or less. If by some miracle they allowed you to have it, that device would have everything connectd to the NH20A sharing a physical network. Some posts indicate that device currently can't bridge a port. Anything connected to your router would still be a separate network unless it has the ability to act as a wifi access point or an extender. I didn't see anything in the settings for the AX11000 that specifically spelled out that ability. You're over-complicating your network setup.
- kamak4 years agoAmbassador
But does the NH20A have 2.5G LAN I/O? I don't think it does. In a modem AP config you connect the modem LAN to the AP's WAN? But I was always under the impression that you connected a gateway device to a AP via LAN to LAN. due to the fact that a gateway like the T3200M is a modem and a router, so router to router via LAN-LAN. That's the way I have my AX11000 connected to the T3200 at this moment, in AP mode and all seems well. I always had my WRT32X connected in AP mode to the T3200M, that way also.
- kamak4 years agoAmbassador
Yes it does have a 10Gbe WAN I/O.
And you can connect a router to router via LAN-to-LAN or LAN-to-WAN. Your choice.
- kamak4 years agoAmbassador
"I didn't see anything in the settings for the AX11000 that specifically spelled out that ability."
Yeah it does, I have the AX11000 in AP mode right now.
But yes I would be getting the 1.5G service along with the NH20A to start out. then down the road go to 2.5G service if need be. I am just looking for a cheap streamline way to get two devices, one router/LAN/Wi-Fi and an AP-LAN/Wi-Fi on the other end all connected via 2.5G, or if need be, two separate routers with unique WAN gateway address. But doesn't the latter require two paid sperate accounts/service?
Seems like the only real way is the expensive 10G multi port switch method? That creates a single public WAN gateway address with two separate LANs behind it, with 2.5G up to 10G connections each?