Anyone know about Telus' RCS plans?

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Not familiar with that acronym.

 

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On that Wikipedia page there is a very short list of countries it's available in so far. The only link I've seen so far between Telus and the GSMA is their OneAPI deal that the GSMA has with the big three in Canada. No RCS.

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@DarthHaro wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services


There is however very little evidence in the field that RCS has wide (or even any) uptake in the market. (Wikipedia)

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Okay, I just thought I'd bring it up because Google just added it to an update of their Messenger App (2.0). A universal profile is planned for next year, so hopefully Canadian carriers look into it by then.

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Google has an entire platform independent of carriers for software that has the feature set of RCS. Unless Canadian carriers offer much cheaper data plans, I don't see RCS coming anytime soon.

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/11/03/rcs-going-live-google-messenger-users-enabling-enhanced-feat...

 

I was going off some info from that. It says carriers need to add support for Google's implementation on the carriers end.

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@Nighthawk wrote:

Google has an entire platform independent of carriers for software that has the feature set of RCS. Unless Canadian carriers offer much cheaper data plans, I don't see RCS coming anytime soon.


Messages doesn't seem to have that much overhead. I can't see Messenger being that much of a data hog either!

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I found this http://www.gsma.com/network2020/universal-profile/

 

It says Telus is one of the backers, there might be hope.

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Depending on the API(s) available and development/coding. It will be a while to become useful.

It doesn't really offer much more then we already have available currently. Unlimited data it maybe handy then.
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Another time Rogers beat everyone. Since December 13th RCS it is fully supported by us.

Any date, any plan Telus? Not surprising.
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Wouldn't say beat, you need a seperate app to currently use it with other android users. (No benefit yet launching an app) Not a single messaging platform like iMessage that's integrated.

Sooner or later other carrier may adopt it. But can't see it anytime soon.
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What? The only thing users need it's the official SMS client named messenger. It's already available on any Nexus or pixel devices and any other Android phone can download it from the play store. Please stop always supporting every Apple's feature and ignoring Android ones. we are in 2016, 2017 in few days and Android is a powerful OS. iMessage is not compatible with Android or Windows or any other, only available on **bleep** made by Apple. We need remove the old SMS protocol and use a new standard!! Rogers is definitely always first to implement new features and technologies. TELUS The Future Is Friendly really?
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You want to know why carriers support iMessage? They don't support it in any way. Apple made it operate independent of the carriers and Apple tightly controls the hardware and software. Apple makes sure it works on their devices. There's a reason Apple's list of carrier supported features does NOT include iMessage.

 

Google just announced on December 13th that Rogers is beginning support for Google's Jibe RCS cloud. Roger's has not even announced this yet likely because the Google announcement states they're just starting to roll it out. The announcement also indicates Rogers will be including the app on only new devices, so users with older devices will likely just have to download Messenger and see if it works on their own. RCS/Jibe is also only available to a select handful of devices on Rogers at this time, so it is not a widespread release.

 

RCS is based on the IMS protocol and RCS is a very poorly adopted standard at this point in time. Google appears to be picking and choosing a tiny number of random providers world wide so far. In addition the description of the app itself advertises it as a better SMS and MMS app so SMS isn't going anywhere.

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Read this article to learn more about the standard and Google's involvement in the process ..

It also talks about the SMS fall-back process for Carriers that do not support the RCS standard ..

 

http://www.androidauthority.com/need-know-rcs-messaging-726687/

 

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That seems common around here, where users tend to push their Apple fanboi opinions like nothing else exists.  It is their own ignorance, unfortunately, that they don't realize that most of the tech and features their iPhones get, come years after they had already been implemented and used on Android devices.  

 

What Roger's says and actually does are two very different things.  Telus has always been more Apple elitist focused.  Look at their stores, branding, and so on.  They even push the Apple stuff on their employees and customers, which iPad's for digital signing.  Perhaps the whole, "ignorance is bliss", is truly the message and experience Telus wants to deliver.