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Been getting Odd IP addresses for quite sometime
Hello, I’ve been a mobility customer for a while. I’ve noticed my iPhone obtains an external mobile public IP address for the past couple of years from a small pool: 207.228.78.0/24 The IP add...
Thanks, yes somewhat similar. My IP doesn’t change that much though. Which is why I’m curious.
For me this has been going on since about Aug 2020. Where my phone is in the same address pool 207.228.78.0/24.
Since it’s been in that pool for so long my guess is it’s based either on account or phone number where they have their own logical grouping probably by sim (imsi ) Or it was placed there. I get 1 of 254 of those addresses in the pool. I’ll be heading out of AB soon so I’ll see if being somewhere else in the country still results in my phone being in that pool. Just found it strange with the trace routes travelling across the country internally before leaving the gateway.
No VPNs enabled
iCloud relay disabled.
I guess I could ask, anyone else in Edmonton in the same pool 207.228.78.0 or the 198.166.64.0?
Also the gateway net range 25.0.0.0 previously used by UK MoD (this one however is also known that these old UK DoD (MoD) leased back the IPs they had due to internet running low on IPv4 addresses.
As for overall performance, mobile Internet runs fine.
For me this has been going on since about Aug 2020. Where my phone is in the same address pool 207.228.78.0/24.
Since it’s been in that pool for so long my guess is it’s based either on account or phone number where they have their own logical grouping probably by sim (imsi ) Or it was placed there. I get 1 of 254 of those addresses in the pool. I’ll be heading out of AB soon so I’ll see if being somewhere else in the country still results in my phone being in that pool. Just found it strange with the trace routes travelling across the country internally before leaving the gateway.
No VPNs enabled
iCloud relay disabled.
I guess I could ask, anyone else in Edmonton in the same pool 207.228.78.0 or the 198.166.64.0?
Also the gateway net range 25.0.0.0 previously used by UK MoD (this one however is also known that these old UK DoD (MoD) leased back the IPs they had due to internet running low on IPv4 addresses.
As for overall performance, mobile Internet runs fine.
Nighthawk
Community Power User
Community Power UserI'm in Edmonton and have a 198.166.x IP address on my iPhone. I've had no issues with various sites or apps incorrectly guessing my location.
- Thanks, sometimes I do get this pool. 198.166.x
Which based on yours also being that I’ll guess it’s normal.- Hello,
The odd IP address that firmly lists me as 3 hours south of Edmonton was reassigned to me yesterday:
207.228.78.14 was what I acquired.
I then ran a trace route to Edmonton.ca (good test route), and the hops were as follows:
96.1.138.29
02
10.187.15.240
O 3
10.187.165.8
O 4
10.187.165.14
05
10.187.165.65
~6
10.187.15.163
07
10.187.18.1
08
10.187.18.2
10.187.253.132
Unfortunately I stopped the trace before it reached its destination. Next time it happens I’ll be sure to get the full output.
I then rebooted my phone to acquired the 198.166.x.x address and trace routes were different:
100.123.66.55
02
100.123.66.138
O 3
100.123.66.141
100.123.65.162
О 4
05
O 6
154.11.12.219
07
74.125.50.110
08
108.170.245.113
O 9
142.251.55.199
010 35.190.75.248
Seems 100.123.x.x made a bit more sense then the 10.187.x.x addresses in the 207.228 trace route output.
I’ve brought this up with telus before and they believe it’s normal my phone appears to be In Calgary. They said if I went as far as Halifax for example it should change and not reflect Calgary.
(This is without using location services and getting an exact gps location of course, we’re talking strictly IP addresses, and where the internet thinks I am, which is what my browsers report, and other websites).- Replying to myself once more here. I was assigned the 207.228.x.x address again while in my building, here is the full trace route the Edmonton.ca:
01, 02, 03, etc represents a hop.
01
75.153.170.244
02
10.187.15.243
O 3
10.187.165.8
10.187.165.17
05
10.187.165.65
06
10.187.15.163
7
10.187.18.1
08
10.187.18.2
0 9
10.187.253.132
010
011
154.11.12.219
012
74.125.50.110
013
108.170.245.113
014
142.251.50.245
35.190.75.248
O 15
248.75.190.35.bc.googleusercontent.com
Here’s the route when getting what I think is a normal IP 192.166.185.x:
100.123.66.55
02
100.123.66.138
O 3
100.123.66.141
100.123.65.162
05
0 6
154.11.12.217
7
74.125.50.110
08
108.170.245.113
0 9
142.251.241.137
010
35.190.75.248
As you can see from both traces it eventually gets to 154.11.12.x which is Telus’s most likely the gateway out to the internet after multiple hops across the country. (Seems to exit internal nat all the way out in Ottawa).
My question at this point is, anyone else see this behaviour, and is it possible someone in my building is running a tool that would capture everything (cell site simulator) for nefarious purposes. Or, given I’ve seen this outside my building as well, would Telus be assigning this IP, and could my phone be in some strange pool ?
How does Telus choose to assign IP addresses, I heard it’s based on location.
I either get 1 of 2 IP ranges I’ve listed In this post.
What’s strange is last year my phone seemed to have some kind of host name and I was running on a network called “interbaun communications”, when I’m a Telus Mobility subscriber.
Almost seems like they contract out their wireless communications handling, e.g the towers, etc or anything to do with it. They do contract out everything else like home services installations and such, could they also contract out the cell towers and let someone else handle it. If so then those contractors could in theory do whatever they wanted as long as the phones are connected and functioning, just seems a bit odd and I’ve finally posted publicly here on the forum about it.
