Software Update Schedule Discussion

[silentace7]

Very professionally done. You should really remove this page and put 'updates to come to Android phones one day, we're not really sure when.' I think I will be switching phones to the nexus devices to actually get updates faster than this half a snail's pace. The Telus experience is not one I'm impressed with. Makes me consider switching providers. 

[Upcraft]

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@Charrion wrote:

Today's date is September 14, 2017 and there has been a known vulnerability in any Android device that doesn't have the September security update.  The latest update to the update schedule was posted on the 8th and there is no mention of any Samsung Android device newer than the Galaxy S6 and apparently no device has received or is scheduled to receive the update Google has made available to vendors to patch the vulnerability to the Blueborne vulnerability.

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I expect the S8 September security updates to release this week.  Users on XDA reporting the Canadian S8/S8+ just started getting the update today .  Looks like this September build is available for Sasktel, Videotron, Freedom, and Bell/Virgin right now.

[kbieth]

Update from Samsung Canada on the September Security Patch:

S8 = September 29

S7 = TBD

S6 = Planned for October 23

[mhinc]

Just got the September Security update on my S8 Saturday Sept 30th, 2017 at 3am

Figured I would let you folks know as of course it wasn't posted on the official schedule, I am sure it will be posted AFTER the fact 

as it has been lately.

[mhinc]

So did the powers that be that update the Schedule all just go on Vacation?

[Mustang_Driver]

well my s7 Edge still has the august 1,2017 security update i am not hoping for alot just if things get worse i will switch to my iphone 7 plus.... i prefer the android os versus the ios but a phone is a phone and if i were to have a iphone first this would be the other way around but at last chech the s7 edge will get the android 8 (OREO) update but that will probably be the last major update, from android central.

[Mustang_Driver]

i never get OTA updates i just do a software check every weekend, i for 1 have to give kudos to apple as since i got the ios 11 update they seem to push updates regularly as my phone has ios 11.0.2 at the moment

[Mustang_Driver]

Correction just got the 11.0.3 update still awaiting android update

[Upcraft]

Got Android 7.1.1 on Galaxy Tab E 8" LTE

Baseband: T377WVLU2BQI6

Kernel build Sat Sep 23 15:38:18 KST 2017

Build number: NMF26X.T377WVLU2BQI6

Samsung Experience 8.5

Knox 2.8

Security patch level August 1, 2017

The previous release was 6.0.1 so a big jump for this little tablet.  I thought 6 was the end of the line for these.

[Shane]

BlackBerry has released OS 10.3.3.3057. I hope Telus will release it.

Shane.

[mhinc]

@Shane Why don't you just use the autoloader files.  IF Telus releases it, god only knows when it will happen...  It's an OS that was from July just never released.  I am guessing providers aren't even testing it in house to OTA it out.  But I could be wrong

I haven't seen a Blackberry OS update on the Schedule other than Android in a LONG time

[Mustang_Driver]

well if this were the case Telus Update Schedule says:

Apple iPhone 7, 7 Plus Oct 03  iOS 11.0.2

 i am currently running IOS 11.0.3 so there was definitely a bug fix since this was updated

Still waiting to hear about an update for my s7 Edge as well i am still running android 7.0 with a security patch for august 1,2017.... i think someone dropped the ball

[Nighthawk]

Samsung is releasing the October patch country by country, starting with the Netherlands but only for the unlocked versions of the S7. No announcement for the carrier versions so far or any schedule for them to release the patch more widely including North America. Samsung is known for not releasing the updates globally or switftly.

[Mustang_Driver]

My Iphone just got yet another update to 11.1 i don't know why android is SO SLOW but apple seems to be doing their part

[Nighthawk]

Apple has a small army of testers and programmers. They get the updates done fast and after a short test phase, release them. No need to worry about slow or lazy manufacturers of compatible devices like the Android ecosystem has.

For example:

• Google releases the initial update.
• Vendors/manufacturers then get it, assuming they even bother in the first place.
• Vendors/manufacturers then try integrate it into their custom versions of Android.
• This is followed by a round of testing to make sure it doesn't break or conflict with anything. If it does then back to fixing it, and re-testing.
• Eventually for the select group of vendors, they begin releasing the patch. Country by country in some cases. (ie, Samsung)
• Then it goes to the cell carriers for final distribution usually. The odd manufacturer will allow direct download of the update, more often for devices purchased unlocked direct from the manufacturer.

[mhinc]

It's after 5pm Eastern on Nov 1st. And my S8 had yet to receive the security update. What's the excuse this time Telus?
And yes, I've tried manually. No updates available....

[Mustang_Driver]

considering there is a wifi vulnerability called KRACK you would think that even telus would push security updates as alot of handhelds use wifi and thats the one major reason i switched back to the iphone 7 i don't care for the iphone and prefer my android but it keeps dropping calls and now with the outdated security updates i don't know if it's feasible to use anymore, really i do like the s7 edge but the dropped calls and having to call someone multiple times is getting a little tiresome.

KRACK Vulnerability Makes Wi-Fi Hacking Possible

[Nighthawk]

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@mhinc wrote:
It's after 5pm Eastern on Nov 1st. And my S8 had yet to receive the security update. What's the excuse this time Telus?
And yes, I've tried manually. No updates available....

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Welcome to the wonderful world of Samsung. They are one of the slowest manufacturers to release updates. My S7 still hasn't been updated either.

@Mustang_Driver - It's up to the manufacturers of devices to get the updates created and released. Google is always fastest. Most other manufacturers are weeks to months later. Canada is often one of the last countries the manufacturers release updates to. 

[mhinc]

@Nighthawk I am well aware of the delays etc.

But the schedule should update accordingly if there are delays, which is my point.

This forum is basically non-existant when it comes to Telus actually replying to their customers.

Which is another upsetting factor.

[Nighthawk]

Some of the updates are listed here: https://forum.telus.com/t5/Mobility/Vulnerability-in-WPA2-Protocol-KRACK/ta-p/78145

[kbieth]

Just performed a manual check (9amEDT Nov 2) for updates on my Samsung Galaxy S8 and it downloaded a system update.

Installed it and the OS shows:

Current version G950WVLU1AQJ4/G950WOYAQJ4/G950WVLU1QJ4

Android version 7.0

Samsung Experience version 8.1

Android Security Patch level October 1, 2017

[mhinc]

@Nighthawk

In regards to your statement;

"Apple has a small army of testers and programmers. They get the updates done fast and after a short test phase, release them. No need to worry about slow or lazy manufacturers of compatible devices like the Android ecosystem has."

I worked for Apple as a Tier 2 Senior Advisor for 2 years.  Your statement, is accurate in one aspect.  "They get the updates done fast and after a short test phase"

But, what you didn't mention is the thousands of phone calls we get after a major OS update that screwed up phones and more than 1 way,

Apple may get releases out quick but they are massively flawed, and rely on several patches after the fact.

I would much rather wait for my provider to test in house, and get it right, than have a poorly tested piece of crap OS that is unstable and full of bugs and flaws.