Software Update Schedule Discussion

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mhinc
Neighbour
I'm guessing the S10 update coming up in October for Security and Optimization, won't be One UI 2.5.
Kinda disappointed. Canada was keeping up with the American carriers there for the last 2 big updates and now they are slacking again.
KnightShadey
Neighbour

GS20 and A71 update arrived on Sept 29 no problemo.. however, Note 9 update still not coming through on OTA, still sitting on August security patch. A bit disappointing for something that doesn't required extra work like a One UI update.

 

Hopefully it will arrive on Oct 6th along with the Note 8 and S10 updates.

 

... or that the next refresh of the schedule shows it is the One UI 2.5 update for the Note 9 sometime mid-October and the reason why it's being 'skipped'/missed. But that's likely expecting a bit much since it hasn't even hit Europe yet.

KnightShadey
Neighbour

@mhinc  September Patch for S10 should be the One UI 2.5 update, everywhere else has bundled the security update with the One UI update... but as you say that might be expecting too much at this point. πŸ˜’

Elky64
Neighbour
NFtoBC

"Or things are simply slower since most are still working from home, and other things have priority over managing a list of likely (repeatedly) delayed phone updates?"

My job has change to a certain degree as many other's have yet at the end of the day, we still have deliver like the pre-covid days. Output is the same just done differently at times. So yeah don't buy this working at home bit. In the beginning when there were way more unknowns/uncertainty it didn't seem to be a problem so why now?
mhinc
Neighbour
@KnightShadey I'm assuming you meant October.
KnightShadey
Neighbour

@mhinc nope, I did mean what I said, it is the September Security Patch that has included One UI 2.5 elsewhere.

 

That Telus might not make it available until October doesn't change it from being the September patch, even though it makes discussions about it more confusing when it gets delayed.

On your phone it will say " Security Patch Level: Date " and that is the date I was/am talking about.

 

The September Patch (which other carriers have actually provided in September) is the one that has had the One UI 2.update 5 for the S10 series; other phones like the S9, Note9 are expected to get it a bit later, likely November or December... and likely on Exynos first and also likely first to European (read German) carriers first for the carrier-dependent versions, with the Qualcomm and N.Am. carriers to follow a few weeks.. or a month or two later depending on carrier interest/effort as usual.

 

Unfortunately Samsung doesn't offer the wider beta program to Canadians like they do in the US, that would help bypass some of the annoying carrier delays.

 

mhinc
Neighbour

@KnightShadey Oh I gotcha!  So since the Sept patch was skipped, we should see One UI 2.5 in this October Security update today.

Well I work nights and I am checking frequently for it.  Nothing yet.

 

KnightShadey
Neighbour

Actually it should still be the "September update Security Patch" from Samsung, not October that would contain this, but yes, Telus being a little late with it, this October 6th should be the September update that has the One UI 2.5 refresh.

 

I can't confirm if this was pushed yesterday, as my group uses Samsung Notes 8,9,10 and Samsung Actives, along with other mfrs, but the Note 9 update was indeed delayed a week past schedule and showed up yesterday instead of Sept 29.

 

However, T-mobile and a few others in the US just got the Sept/OUI2.5 update over the past two days also, so it seems likely.

KnightShadey
Neighbour

Samsung Note 9 update again missed its drop date for the second time in a row. πŸ˜’

 

I was hoping it would be just a couple of days late like last time, but still nothing.

 

A little annoying since this one is supposed to be the One UI 2.5 update.

 

Hoping that it shows up on Monday, but if things mirror last month it won't arrive until the S9 update on the 10th.

 

In what is likely the last feature update for that device being missed, it doesn't bod well for security updates on Telus in the future, or the next couple of years for the Note 10 / 20 when Telus can't do 2 years support, 3 years seems like a stretch, and forget the A71 and the like getting that promoted 3 years support on Telus if the flagships can't get respect for the entirety of their promised support. 🀨

 

Samsung needs to untie itself from the carriers who undermine the platform, for the hefty premium now even above Apple devices, the devices should be updated directly from Samsung, just like iOS.

OlytheGoalie
Just Moved In
I'm still waiting for the November 3 update for my Fold 2 as well. I have completely lost faith in Telus...they are nothing but a sh!tshow. Kind of sad actually, horrible reception in the WestShore in Colwood, I need to run my phone on WiFi calling just to make sure I don't miss any calls as the signal is more than pathetic. WiFi Calling resets itself 2 to 3 times a day on a good day (Ihave reset it 5 times today) If I wasn't under contract I would be gone. To top it off...an enexpected error has occurred in trying to post this.
KnightShadey
Neighbour

So is that a typo in the list, or is the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 really getting an Optimization Update 6 years after release?? 🀨

 

As it's the same date at the Note 20, one can only hope that it's a typo swapping a handwritten look-alike 4 = 9, and that this is the new timeframe for the Note 9 One UI 2.5 update, missed earlier in the month. πŸ€”

KnightShadey
Neighbour

I'm more than a little disappointed that even with the new S21 that Samsung won't be enabling Seamless Updates that was supposed to come as a core feature of Android 11. 🀬

 

https://9to5google.com/2021/01/24/samsungs-galaxy-s21-series-apparently-still-lacks-androids-seamles...

 

It would make life so much easier, not only for individuals, but for managed deployments. The A/B partition would avoid a bunch of headaches of failed installs and corruption, and even allow the possibility for an easier undo should features go terribly wrong.

 

While I enjoy some Samsung specific add-ons to basic Android, it is the pain that is a fractured update ecosystem that makes me long for bare-bones Android on Samsung devices, which would also put less pressure on carrier-specific stuff and OTA updates. 🀨

 

Oh well, add it to the list of good ideas discarded by Samsung. πŸ˜’

NewfieWannabe
Connector
It would be nice for some more consistency for the Note 20 Ultra. It has so far been skipped for February security patch. OneUI 3.1 has been announced and released by Samsung for it, but I highly doubt my top-of-the-line Note 20 Ultra will get it u til late March or even April at this rate. Maybe I'll get lucky and my S9+ will get upgraded, too, lol. It at least has the February security patch.
KnightShadey
Neighbour

@NewfieWannabe One UI 3.1 hasn't been released for any Qualcomm Note 20 yet, just the Exynos models.

No N.Am. carrier has launched it yet. It is expected March 3rd for Telus & Fido (and likely Rogers and Bell although not on Rogers scheduler yet), and no date posted for US carriers yet.

 

Also the February N20/20U update didn't hit any N.Am. carrier either with AT&T , T-Mob & Verizon's last update for the Note 20/20U being the January 1 patch distributed in January (15th, 8th, and 15th respectively).

 

https://www.att.com/device-support/article/wireless/KM1403701/Samsung/SamsungSMN986U

https://www.t-mobile.com/support/devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note20-ultra-5g/software-updates-sam...

https://www.verizon.com/support/software-updates/

KnightShadey
Neighbour

Any hint as to the 4 unnamed "Samsung" devices added to the list today getting a security update tomorrow ? 🀨

dru
Community Manager
Community Manager

@KnightShadey Good catch! I was a little bit trigger happy with the mouse. Correction made πŸ™‚