08-19-2019 12:17 PM
Having an email outage of more than a few hours is simply inexcusable in this day and age. While I appear to be getting new emails, I know for a fact that there are emails from at least August 16th and 17th that have not arrived. And the biggest problem with not getting emails is that you don't know you didn't get them unless the sender tells you (which they can't do via email!) or they eventually show up.
I have internet, Optik tv, home phone, and three mobility accounts with Telus. I will be moving in the next couple of months or I would do it today but Telus will be losing out on close to $500 per month of revenue from just me. How many others will there be? Don't forget, this exact thing happened back in May and they appear to have done nothing to address the root of the problem.
So here is my honest answer to my question: I would only be satisfied with a minimum of 2 months credit for my internet service which is $85 x 2 = $170.
What about you?
08-20-2019 06:36 AM
@Chicnstu wrote:I would love to find out how many customers demanding compensation for their email disruption actually pay for the email as a standalone service and don't just receive it as the complimentary feature/addon that it is. The vocal majority of people who are demanding compensation seem to be those who run a business from home but do not pay for business products and the guarantees for service restoral and lost revenue those provide. Telus webmail is a free addon of residential internet. There was no loss in internet service.
I feel for the people who have been impacted by this outage and yes, the response and fix from Telus was sub-par for sure. That being said, demanding compensations with threats to cancel all services is definitely overreacting in my book.
Internet service includes e-mail service. It is part of the internet service that we pay for. Would you pay full price for a half service...I don't think so.
08-22-2019 02:52 PM
It is offered but not on the list of ISP services I need or use, so it is truly a non-issue.
08-20-2019 03:27 PM
What the heck are you talking about?
Telus.net email accounts sold as part of the Internet service, not some freebie add-on you incorrectly describe. This is no different than if the Telus DSL modem fails or if the fiber optic cable is cut.
08-22-2019 03:31 PM
Please remember to be polite to the phone agent on the other end if you are discussing compensation for this outage. I worked in a call centre many years ago and I remember when we would have big outages that impacted customers like this. If you call in and are nice and polite, most agents will be very willing to work with you and will offer compensation as much as they are allowed to at their level. If you feel it's not enough, ask to speak to an escalations manager. If you come in guns blazing with threats of cancellations and yell at the agent just because they are "the voice of Telus", it's very easy to immediately stop caring to help you and do the bare minimum to get them off the phone. The people on the other end are humans too.
08-22-2019 09:04 PM
08-22-2019 09:11 PM
Do you have a hostile relationship with everyone whom you do business with? I admit their phone salespeople are most often supremely annoying jerks. Just talked to one the other day. He was a persistent idiot.
And there are other things about Telus which tick me off. However, they do have a robust and dependable network.
Try to bear in mind that it was probably one person whose mistake caused this outage, and the rest of them are working hard to bring it back.
08-29-2019 11:51 AM
@BillTelusCust wrote:
Try to bear in mind that it was probably one person whose mistake caused this outage, and the rest of them are working hard to bring it back.
And who’s fault was it to subcontract the work in the first place?
08-30-2019 01:45 PM
Its not a complimentary feature, its part of the package. When they sell you internet service the price of the email is factored in. Telus (or any other company for that matter) is not going to give you something for free. If you offer a service then stand behind it and make it work in a timely manner. One would thing that there should be a backup system in place that they should have been able to switch over to, until they fixed the original problem. In the past email was considered best effort service, but in today's world that is no longer the case. Times have changed and so should how the service gets implemented.
08-30-2019 06:27 PM
08-30-2019 07:40 PM
That's right and this is why I use an email service which has exactly this type of scenario. If the data center were knocked out of commission completely, it would be up in another data center in 20 minutes. It isn't just backed up, it is replicated.
08-20-2019 03:22 PM
Asked for and received 2 months of compensation.
If and when this is resolved, I will ask for a month of free service for every day the email service has been down.
08-21-2019 11:29 PM
@Spinner wrote:Asked for and received 2 months of compensation.
If and when this is resolved, I will ask for a month of free service for every day the email service has been down.
If this is true, it makes me think Telus is hoping we'll all pull a "Kramer" and accept free coffee for a year.
I'm still waiting for emails that I know for a fact were sent on August 16th and 17th and I have only just in the last couple of hours gotten the one from the 16th. It's the ones I don't know about that concern me.
08-21-2019 11:58 PM
08-22-2019 01:56 AM
08-21-2019 05:00 PM
Depends how much longer before full service is restored. Each day it isn't, my price goes up.g
08-21-2019 09:24 PM
I just got an offer of a $10 refund with some other offers as a bonus (none of which I want). So I've seen $20 offers and various months for free offers. What is the deal here? $10 is just embarrassing. I have had various problems with Telus over the years which makes me wonder at their competency as an internet provider. The email problem is something which never should have happened and to offer your customers a pittance as compensation makes me think their management is totally incompetent. Time to look at other options. I would be curious to see how much business Telus loses over this debacle.
08-21-2019 09:35 PM
I see that Shaw has been taking full advantage of this.
08-21-2019 10:22 PM
Further to the threads regarding this topic I think the offer of $10.00 off your next bill plus some free movies is pretty lame.
Perhaps for the average user just emailing friends etc this might suffice. But for a lot of customers like myself running a home based business an email outage can have significant implications. I'm still not sure what has been lost or if any of my customers have emailed me and I haven't received the email.
The only way to know is for me to be proactive and email clients to notify them I may not have received their email. I have Telus internet, cel and TV costing about $280 per month. Due the math with 13 plus million subscribers and annual revenue of 14 billion plus some of the highest cel phone TV and internet costs in the world a $10.00 offer falls who fully short.
The large tel coms in Canada have a monopoly in this country mainly from regulations from the CRTC. Its time for change.
My feeling on this is one moth totally free services for TV and internet if offered would install some confidence in Telus that they do the right thing for their customers. If I have to call, complain and ask for that that wouldn't instill my confidence back as my ISP.
08-22-2019 07:10 AM
I agree that the offer of $10 off your next bill isn't meaningful compensation, especially considering this is the second time in 3 months customers are inconvenienced by an extended outage. I feel for business customers. I also find it troubling that some people are apparently being compensated differently than others - $10, $20, a month of free service? I don't think it's unreasonable to offer business customers a bit more compensation, but give all business customers the same credit, and give all residential customers the same credit. To do otherwise is not a good policy.
08-21-2019 11:33 PM
I totally agree 2 months of free internet $85 x 2=$170.00
08-22-2019 02:49 PM
As an internet provider, I expect them to provide robust connectivity to the internet. I expect proper service and to have the speeds as advertised.
Although I agree that the email outage is really quite outrageous, in my world, I don't use an ISP as an email provider and have not done so for decades.
In answer to your question, if something like this happened to their internet connectivity, that would be it - but the email outage would be a non issue. I do feel for those affected, but it is quite simply not a consideration as far as I'm concerned. The only Telus internet I'm associated with, although business DSL, is pretty robust and steady. The problems have been very minimal over the years.