With my contract about to expire, i was looking at what offers are available to remain a loyal customer (as i've been for 15years). But seems i am no longer considered a valued customer and my loyalty means nothing anymore, unless I commit to a minimum $70/month. Looks like time to shop the competition......
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What are your needs? I am running my iPhone 3Gs on Pay and talk for about $12- $15/month. Small amount of data (mostly WiFi) and few voice minutes. It's mostly a convenience phone for my wife, who usually uses the LandLine for most calling.
I have had the same experience, I have been a customer for over 5 years and my contract expires in 2months. I am not able to renew my current plan and only have the option to go on a $70+ plan ($20 more than my current plan) if I want any of the phones I am interested in. Other carriers will offer the phones I want on a $55 plan, and Telus Loyality won't offer anything close. They offered to beef up the $70 plans, but I don't need that much. Definitely take a look around before renewing.
What phone are you looking for exactly? Bell, Rogers, Telus, Videotron, Koodo, Fido, Virgin etc. all make you pay $70+ a month if you want an iPhone, SG4 etc.
Also the reason prices went up is the move from 3 year contracts to 2, directly comparing what you were paying before to now isn't really fair.
For sure I understand the reason for the price increase with the change to 2 year contracts. I love telus and have been really happy with them, I just wish they had some more flexibility with their plans. I just have a hard time paying over $70 when a $55 plan will more than meet my needs.
I am looking at the Z10 or the Galaxy S3....Virgin for example will offer a $55 plan with the Z10 for $50 or the S3 for $0...the problem I have with Telus right now is they won't let me have these phones at all on a lite plan, even if I pay some money upfront for the phone.
Your idea does make sense because you are already paying $55 a month. But if you do take that $50 discounted phone (I'm assuming Samsung Galaxy III at $49) you won't be able to keep your $55 plan. They will make you spend minimum $70 per month (and you only get 250 mb of data, you could probably negotiate more data). It also depends on what your getting for that $55 plan. I'm assuming a pretty decent phone plan but what is your data package at? I know some of my friends that pay $55 (old plan) get anywhere from 1 to 6 gb of data. Now you take TELUS share plan (let just say 1 gb at $30) on top of your $55 per month phone plan. Your now paying $85 per month (X 24 months = $2040) + phone price ($49) = 2050. Now you take your $55 plan (X 24 months = $1320) + phone price ($650) = $1970. Ok so your only saving $80. So you do make a point.
The question is, what would you be giving up that $55 plan for the new $85 plan.
Lets say you are getting a great deal at $55 (6 gb of data). Telus is an ass and says if you want to keep your 6 gb of data (according to their shareplan it is $65 per month) you have to go on their shared plans. You would be paying $55 (smartphone plan) + $65 (6 gb of data). Your monthly bill is now $120 per month X 24 + $49 phone = $2929. Now you take your $55 plan X 24 months (just to compare with the other senerio) + $650 = $1970.
So what I'm trying to say is if you want one of those new phones (iPhone 5s, Samsung Galaxy s4 and the other high end phones) your going to have to give up that $55 plan (which is probably awesome) for their new shared plans (which is not great for, what I'm assuming, most people). Which is why I would consider buying the phone outright if I have a great plan.
For myself, and it really only works for me. I pay $43 a month (300 nationwide daytime minutes, E&W starting at 5 pm, 400 mb of data, text, ID voicemail). I also never go over my amounts. Now if I were to go to the minimum $70 (sure I get unlimited daytime minutes) I would actually lose 150 mb of data. So I would be wasting an extra $27 a month. Now times that by 24 months and that = $648. That number exceeds the starting device balance on a iPhone 5s 16 gb ($490) and Samsung Galaxy S4 ($521). I'm only using those phones as an example since they are the newest versions.
The Starting device balance is the key to this. Telus has to make this up and hoping that a customer will spend on extras to make that up and also make $$$.
The problem is that you can't have a $55/month plan if you buy the phone from the provider because nearly all of them insist that you start with a minimum $70 plan in order to be able to buy the phone. I badly needed a new phone this year, and I use iPhones because they sync wirelessly with my mac computer. Nearly every provider wanted me to sign to a 2-year contract, and pay $129 up front for the phone, then a minimum of $70 a month before tax.
Now, I have a plan I like for $30 a month before tax, and I thought that after I bought a new phone I would add a small amount of data for another $10 a month, bringing my monthly charge to $40/month plus the cost of buying the new phone outright. If I bought the phone from Telus or another provider on a 2-year plan, I would be paying $129 plus the extra $30/month for the plan x 24 months, or a total of $849 for my phone. That was not acceptable to me, so I went to Apple and bought it outright, unlocked, and usable on any network I choose for $600, saving $249.
Then, once I registered it with Telus (I had to - I had to get a SIM that would fit the new phone) I saw that my data add-on selections had suddenly disappeared and only one for $35 was being offered -- again bringing my bill to $70 if I add data to my current plan. But that's another story.....
Interesting to hear your problem. I got the loyalty line from one of the Telus stores years ago. The stores told me that the stores itself can't do anything and they are just selling the phone on Telus' behalf. So whenever I am close to my contract ending, I call them first to see what is my options. If I do like what they are offering, then I agree to their terms. They put the plan on my account and then go to the store to get a phone the plan we agreed to is on my file. Of course you kind of have more leverage when your contract is done. I'm like you, a data plan is not important to me. I'll take one but I'm not going to pay a ridiculous amount for it.
This is the first time in 13 years that I have let my contract run out and still using the same phone (HTC One V, cheap but useful). The iPhone is very interesting and I would like to get it. Of course then Telus has you and they know they don't have to offer you much. Or like you said, they will offer you something you don't really need like 6 gb of data when 1 gb will do. I was without data for 2 years paying $30 for 200 minutes, UL text, ID, voicemail and evening and weekends at 6. Telus let me know that I could have that and they would throw in 6 gb of data for $55. So it would have been paying extra $25 for 6 gb of data that I would not have needed. I pay $5 for like 100 mb.
So a couple of months ago I called the loyalty line and asked them what offers are out there for me. I told her I wasn't interested in a new phone but asked if there was a plan that was similar to mine with a data package that was not going to break the bank for me. So for $13 more a month, my 200 minutes are now 300 nationwide minutes, E/W start at 5 pm and I have 400 mb of data. Pretty good deal if you ask me. I asked her how long I can have this plan and she said as long as you don't change it (I don't think its offered anymore) or if I renew a contract. I said I guess I will have to pay full price for future phones if I want to keep my plan. She said that is the only way and that she does that herself.
So from what I get from this is to be very nice to the agent and take care of your phone like its a kid. Also let your contract run out and wait as long as you can if you need a new phone.
I certainly do not feel valued as a costumer anymore with Telus. Your customer service and care has gone down tremendoulsy in the last year. I was promised an extended free Voicemail 10 last year, and this year am told there is no such thing. I am willing to pay 300$ to cancel my contract, because I refuse to stay with a company that openly lies to customers. I have been hearing good things about Fido's customer care and was told the notes that their agents leave in the customer files are always exactly as the conversation happened. Every time I call Telus, the notes are completely wrong and inacurate to the discussion that occured, and I am sick of being lied to.
I just got a IPhone 5 at thanksgiving because I broke my SIII and still had almost 2 years left on my contract. I had 2 gbs of data on my plan and it was gonna cost me alot more to keep that. I spoke to the loyalty person and she asked me what I needed, I told her unlimited text and at least two gigs of data I hardly ever talk on the phone. Might use 10mins a month. So she gave me a great deal to get to $70 and I got everything I needed. I was really impressed with the service she totally was willing to work with me, and there was no hassle. I've never had a bad experience with telus, and my phones never drop calls. It seems like everyone I know on other networks always has drop calls.
You don't have to buy data unless you're buying a high-end smartphone, and then you really should be anyway. If you buy a Smartphone Lite or flip-phone, you can always take a voice-only plan and add data as needed via add-ons. For example, take the Voice 35 and add $10 in features to meet the $45 min commit, you can get a Nexus 4 with that for $0 upfront on a 2-year.
There's no way you have an iPhone or high-tier Android w/ a $30 plan unless you bought it outright.
I am also wondering about that. Right now, I am paying $20/month (discounted for 1 year from $30) for 200 minutes, evenings and weekends from 6 PM. I pay another $10 for unlimited international texts, and I have a free 3-month trial of 100 MB/month data. Total is $30 a month plus tax right now. I own my own iPhone 5C. Expensive, but I refuse to buy phones on contract so that I can control how much I pay for cell service and because I travel internationally a lot and want to switch sims.
As my free data expires in December, I am looking at paying $45 a month to either Koodo or Fido for 500 minutes, unlimited incoming, unlimited international texts, and 500 MB data. I do want more minutes and more data, so I'm not always switching the data on and off as needed and checking my minutes balance online. But I don't know whether Fido or Koodo is best? I am happy with everything about Telus except customer service, but I don't believe they can offer me the same deal.
TELUS offer identical plans to Koodo/Fido/Virgin in most cases, make sure you're comparing like-to-like though. That is to say, don't compare the monthly rate required to take an iPhone 5 at TELUS vs. a Moto G at Koodo, not really a valid comparison. Check out TELUS' Lite suite, sounds more like what you're talking about - the plan you describe is not offered in the market today.
Yeah, I somewhat sadly switched to Fido yesterday. Koodo actually had the slightly better offer, but Fido is near my house, so....
I think there was a lot to like about Telus, and I hope that in a few months I can say the same about Fido. But nearly all Telus's best offers seem to be geared toward people who want a subsidized phone and 2-year contract, and that is not me. I buy my phone unlocked to have the freedom to pay for usage monthly, and in the process I get much lower rates. At Fido, I now have 400 minutes and 400 MB data, along with unlimited international texts (important to me as my family is in the US) for $35.10 plus tax. At Telus I had only 200 minutes and 100 MB data for $30 plus tax, going up to $40 in January when my free trial of data ended. I was forever checking my usage and turning off my data for fear of going over.
Well, good luck, guys. I'm out!
I've been around since it was Clearnet, I have the same quandry with such a huge monthy bill, seems to be foolish to thow money away... with a better loacal service, and unlimited everything for a fraction of the cost of my current bill... I've contacted Telus they said the best they can do is $55/month... that's not even close to being competative...
My Telus bill is $80/month for a much better local plan which Telus calls a discount provider I can get for $30/month unlimited everything... no more contracts for me... I'm buying my next phone...
I bought my wife a new phone now she's happy paying $30/month after the switch, Telus CAN NOT MATCH $30/month... they suggested perhaps checking back during the time when my contract expires... I really doubt it...
February is just around the corner... I'm also switching...
Just got off the phone with Telus. My contract expires Monday, so i am trying to change to prepaid. I was told they cant do it because i have 3 days left..... LOL What a joke of a company. Dont you guys have computers? Even trying to stay a customer is a challenge. So i will spend the weekend shopping your competitors. LOL good customer retention Telus. Laughable.....
I posted about my experience in another thread. Long story short, Telus offered me no "loyalty" at all to induce me to stay.
After having an iPhone with Telus for a few years along with all my family members. I cancelled my phone with them this morning.
I was asked to pay more for the same service in order to upgrade my daughters phone. As a result I cancelled my number and gave her my phone to use on her old contract.
Telus is now out at least $55 a month for the forseeable future and I can happily live without the extra money going out of pocket for the same service. Now I understand why the government is running those commercials about cell phone companies in Canada.
So let's do some math here:
$260 total bill / 4 phones = $65/phone for unlimited nationwide calling & texting + 1.5GB of data each
2 iPhones w/ 1GB = $85 x 2 = $170
2 non-iPhones w/ 1GB = $55 x 2 = $110
Total = $280/month
To get the same features:
2 iPhones w/ 1GB = $85 x 2 = $170
2 non-iPhones w/ 2GB = $65 x 2 = $130
Total = $300 for 6GB data + unlimited nationwide talk & text
That's including all of the promotions now on and everything. To recap: you're getting an extra 500MB per phone & all the same other features at Telus for $20 less per month. Why are you switching? Where are you getting it $40-60 cheaper per month? Wind?
By my reading of Rogers' offer (which is the one he mentioned), you could have 1 new Smartphone at $55/month, add 3 of your own phones at $35/month each, total of $105, then add 6 gigs of data (their current offer is 3 gigs plus 3 more for $50/month, totaling $210/month. PLUS there seems to be some 50% off for each additional line for 3 months deal right now that might apply. But the $210 IS 40-60 a month cheaper than the customer was offered at Telus, and it seems to me that Telus might want to match other offers for their good customers. I have cable and internet from Rogers, and when Bell made me a verifiable offer this summer, Rogers immediately matched it, though it was about half what I was paying them at the time. Why can't Telus do the same?
I agree with you, Papa63. They should be reaching out to their current customers to be sure that they stay. I didn't even call their loyalty department before buying my own new iPhone a couple of months ago and jumping ship to Fido, where I get twice the minutes and four times the data that I got from Telus for the same price. I felt the same way you do - I've been a good customer since returning to Canada from Europe 14 months ago - let them work to keep me, rather than the other way around. My take is that they ONLY want customers who buy expensive new phones on contract every 2 years - all others can leave and they really don't care.
Hi, just to clarify... the 4-phones that I was quoting are actually 3-of my own, which are already bought and paid for. There's only one new phone, a iPhone 5C 16g, that I was looking for Telus to include which comes with a 2-year contract requirement plus a minimum $75/month data plan (1g) requirement. They're also looking for up-front money of $79 for the 16g 5C with the package. Check the Telus web page, anybody off the street can get that.
I'm better off going to the Apple store and buying the phone for $599 considering that the same phone will cost me over $600 via the Telus loyality package.
I'm just comapring apples to apples and dollars to dollars. Telus has made me ZERO offers for my decades of loyalty.
Does Apple give discounts to customers who have previously bought iPhones to reward their loyalty? Does your grocery store? Does your car lease get cheaper if you don't miss a payment?
"They're also looking for up-front money of $79 for the 16g 5C with the package"
The nerve, charging you anything at all for a new smartphone that's worth $700, who do they think they are? A business?
Yes, there are. When you buy your phone, first of all, you can choose a monthly plan so that there's no penalty if you find a better plan with another provider - you can switch any time. Second, most providers give you about 10% off your plan for bringing your own phone. I have a plan now with 400 minutes, unlimited international text, unlimited evenings and weekends from 5 and 400 MB data for $35.10/month. Since contract plans for my iPhone 5C start at around $70 a month, and another $35/month x 24 months is $840, which is $150 more than I spent for the phone, including tax, I did save money by doing it this way. More importantly, I have the freedom to change to the lowest-price plan anytime I want - I'm not locked in to anything.
I don't understand why you seem angry about people looking for the least expensive way to have the phone service they want - and coming to the conclusion that Telus isn't competitive in the market. As to your point -- of course my grocery store rewards my loyalty, in the form of a points card. I can hardly wait to pick up my free tenderloin for Christmas dinner! 🙂 And if you think Apple doesn't reward loyalty, then you haven't had enough Apple products. In 2006, I bought a first edition white macbook. In 2010, when it was one year out of warranty, the case cracked. Apple replaced it for free while I waited. The next year, the fan went, and, again, Apple replaced a five-year-old computer's fan for free, while I waited. In each case, the "genius" looked up my record, saw that I had been buying Apple products for a long time, and treated me accordingly.
It's good business to retain customers even while trying to attract new ones. And it's good business to offer deals comparable to competitors'. This thread only complains that Telus does neither.
If you have a cheaper plan less than $45 (mine is $43.35 after the 10% discount and taxes), I've calculated that you would save several hundreds of dollars, depending on what phone you have. I created an excel spreadsheet with a list of phones under different scenarios. If anyone needs that let me know. All you would need to enter is the current price of the subsidized phone and your current plan. Using the minimum plan, seems to be $75 now, there is a significant savings.
My Telus contract was about to expire so I went to see about renewing and getting a new phone. What I discovered was that I needed to be on a minimum of $70 plan to get the phone that I wanted. Telus would not budge with the new 2 year plan prices. That adds up to over $500 more than what I was currently paying over two years. Anyway I decided to shop around and found a way to get the phone I wanted with Rogers on a 3 year plan at $50/month. I then ported my phone number over 2 days after my renewal date and Telus said they had to charge me for an entire month since I missed the billing cycle date. I sure found out where I stood as a customer...
Same experience. Telus has terrible customer service. Sure, the representatives are nice enough, but the company wants to take you for as much as they can. No flexibility at all, and no real loyalty program for their long time customers. Example in point, I had some issues with my bill so I called up, they told me I had to cancel my existing plan, and start a new plan that costs more and gives me less. Thank telus, I really appreicate that. I pay more, get less, and this was less than one year into my current contract. Also the actual service has been terrible the last few years. Numerous days of dropped calls and irregular cell phone reception. I regret not going with another carrier, and one more issue and I am done! I will gladly pay any penalty not to have to deal with this anti customer attitude they have. No wonder I do not have a telus home phone or telus TV. If mobility is this bad, why would I bother with any other products. My advise to anyone else is not to go with telus.