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Jparhar
Friendly Neighbour
5 years ago
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Risk of Phone getting blacklisted?

Hi, i recently bought a phone off of eBay. It is a brand new, sealed , never opened IPhone from Russia. I have confirmed that it has never been activated, and everything looks clear from an IMEI check i did. If the seller does try to do a blacklist fraud, am i clear? Considering there’s never been a phone number tied with the phone, and nor does russia blacklisting take affect in Canada, i was wondering on some opinions people have.
  • $700? New? That is so far below the actual value of the phone. That should be the first indication it's extremely likely to be a scam. Even a new 256GB iPhone 11 (non-Pro) is $1,059 Canadian. That same phone in Russia is 69 990.00 pyб or $1,200 Canadian. Makes even less sense

     

    There is a long running eBay scam where scammers are selling what look like sealed retail boxed iPhones but the box either ships with a weight or a rock inside or some other old model of phone. It's entirely possible that the IMEI that the seller gave you isn't even from a Russian or European phone. It's also possible that the scammer bought an empty iPhone box online from the US or other country and is just trying to use it to draw in potential victims. If there is an iPhone in there you should also be cautious if it's a stolen one from the looting in the US earlier this year. Apple will have blacklisted those ones internally so the IMEI won't matter. Additionally Apple devices stolen from the US have been smuggled to Russia and are being re-sold from there.

     

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  • How did you confirm that it has never been activated?

    Do you already have the phone? If not then any EMEI check is meaningless because there is no guarantee the phone you will be getting has the EMEI that you checked.

     

     

    • Jparhar's avatar
      Jparhar
      Friendly Neighbour

      I got a picture of the box. Yes it could not because the IEMI that i checked, but if it isnt, then i can return the phone because i am covered under buyers protection. If the phone isnt brand new, and the exact same phone as in the pictures, i am covered. The issue is, if he reports the phone as stolen later. Would a russian blacklist effect me here in Canada?

      • xray's avatar
        xray
        Hero
        I wouldn't worry about that unless you plan on getting phone service in Russia. Canadian carriers only check the Canadian stolen phone list (maybe US as well).

        If you think about it there's no motivation for the seller to do that. They already have your money.
  • Buy local or don't buy one at all especially from Russia. Unless you want to throw it away and be out X amount of money..I guess if you purchased through eBay and paid with paypal you would be somewhat protected but still it's high risk.